RESHAPED THE RACE FOR THE WHITE HOUSE. GOOD MORNING, I’M ADAM SEXTON. THERE’S A SAYING FROM A FORMER PRESIDENT. SHOW ME YOUR BUDGET AND I’LL SHOW YOU YOUR VALUES. REPUBLICANS HOLD POWER IN WASHINGTON RIGHT NOW, AND THEY ARE TRYING TO ALIGN THE NEXT FEDERAL BUDGET WITH THEIR VALUES. BUT THERE IS SOME INTERNAL CONFLICT HERE THIS MORNING TO DISCUSS THAT AND MORE IS THE FORMER SPEAKER OF THE NEW HAMPSHIRE HOUSE AND CURRENT RNC COMMITTEEMAN, BILL O’BRIEN. MR. SPEAKER, THANKS FOR COMING IN, AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. SO THE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL, AS IT IS CALLED, YOU KNOW, YOU’RE ON TEAM RNC RIGHT NOW. YOU’RE FIGHTING NOT HARD FOR THE PRESIDENT, BUT THERE’S SOME DISAGREEMENT AMONG REPUBLICANS WHAT IT HAS TO GO ON, I GUESS, TO GET EVERYONE ON THE SAME PAGE TO PASS THIS BILL, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE DEFICIT. SURE, WE HAVE SOME SENATORS TO CONVINCE, BUT IT’S A GREAT BILL. IT REALLY IS. AND IT’S A BILL THAT AMERICANS SUPPORT. YOU KNOW, IF WE DON’T CONTINUE THE FIRST ADMINISTRATION TAX CUTS, FIRST TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TAX CUTS, IT’S GOING TO BE A $1,700 TAX INCREASE ON EVERY AMERICAN. THE LARGEST TAX INCREASE IN AMERICAN HISTORY. AND SO WE NEED TO PASS IT. AND I THINK REPUBLICAN SENATORS UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN’T GET TO THE END OF THE YEAR AND HAVE THOSE TAX CUTS GO AWAY. AND IN ADDITION, IT DOES SOME REALLY GREAT THINGS. IT REDUCES THE TAX ON SOCIAL SECURITY AT THE LOWER END. THAT’S GOING TO BE REALLY HELPFUL FOR FOLKS. IT REDUCES OR ELIMINATES THE TAX ON OVERTIME AND TIPS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE REALLY ARE PROVE PEOPLE SHOW THROUGH POLLS THAT THEY SUPPORT IT 63% FOR OVERTIME, 59% FOR TAX ON TIPS. SO THIS IS A BILL THAT THAT NEEDS TO PASS AND DOES SOME REALLY GREAT THINGS. CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE THOUGH SCORING THIS ANOTHER $3.8 TRILLION ADDED TO THE NATIONAL DEBT OVER TIME. YOU KNOW, WHAT ABOUT THOSE CONCERNS? ELON MUSK SAYING, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF WISH WE HAD GONE FARTHER, PERHAPS IN CUTTING SPENDING. WELL, THIS IS THE FIRST OF WHAT’S GOING TO BE TWO RECONCILIATION BILLS THIS CYCLE. AND TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE, RECONCILIATION BILL IS A BILL THAT CAN PASS AND NOT BE SUBJECT TO A FILIBUSTER, BECAUSE THE DEMOCRATS WILL FILIBUSTER ANY BILL THAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS PUSHING. AND IN TERMS OF SCORING AT THE SCORE THAT WE SEE, IS THAT THE COST OF IT WILL BE $2.5 TRILLION. BUT THERE’S $1.7 TRILLION OF SAVINGS IN IT, SAVINGS THAT COME THROUGH, FOR EXAMPLE, TAKING 1.4. MILLION CRIMINAL ALIENS OFF THE MEDICAID ROLLS, REQUIRING ABLE BODIED AMERICANS TO WORK IF IF THEY’RE GETTING MEDICAID. WE’RE NOT TALKING PREGNANT WOMEN. WE’RE NOT TALKING PEOPLE WHO ARE FRAIL OR DISABLED, BUT PEOPLE WHO CAN WORK IF THEY’RE GETTING FREE MEDICAID OUGHT TO BE WORKING. SO IF YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THAT, THERE’S ABOUT $1.7 TRILLION IN SAVINGS IN IT. EVERYONE ACKNOWLEDGES WHO LOOKS AT IT, THAT IT WILL INCREASE ECONOMIC ACTIVITY. THE FIGURES WE’RE LOOKING AT, IT WILL BE 5.5% INCREASE IN ECONOMIC ACTIVITY. THEY’LL MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 1.7 AND 2.5. SO IT SHOULD SCORE EVENLY. YOU’RE A LONGTIME FISCAL HAWK. VERY CONSERVATIVE. WHAT IS YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON THIS. AND IT’S NOT COMPLETE, BUT THE SORT OF REPUBLICAN EMBRACE OF MEDICAID. YOU SEE, SENATOR HAWLEY, YOU KNOW, OTHER THOUGHT LEADERS IN THE PARTY ARE SAYING, HEY, THIS IS PART OF OUR CONSTITUENCY NOW. WE NEED TO PROTECT THIS PROGRAM. SURE. AND THAT’S WHAT WE’RE DOING. AND IT’S SIMILAR WITH THE THE STATE AND LOCAL TAX DEDUCTIONS BEING INCREASED. THE SALT BEING INCREASED. THAT’S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO OUR CONSTITUENTS. YOU KNOW, AS I SAID, IT’S GOING TO BE THE FIRST OF AT LEAST TWO. RECONCILIATION BILLS, BILLS THAT CAN GO FORWARD WITHOUT BEING SUBJECT TO A FILIBUSTER. AND I’M SURE A LOT OF FOLKS JOIN ME AND CONGRESSMAN MACY AND SENATOR RAND PAUL IN HOPING THAT THOSE THAT BILL WILL CONCENTRATE ON FURTHER EFFICIENCIES. LOOK AT WHAT THE DOGE FOLKS HAVE IDENTIFIED AS AS EXCESSIVE GOVERNMENT SPENDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR SAVINGS, AND THAT WE REALIZE THEM BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, OUR NATIONAL DEBT, OUR GOVERNMENT NATIONAL DEBT IS JUST SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE REDUCED. AND THERE ARE IMMIGRATION ELEMENTS OF THIS BIG, BEAUTIFUL BILL AS WELL. OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS A BIG CAMPAIGN PROMISE FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP TO SECURE THE BORDER. WHAT IS THIS GOING TO DO ON THAT FRONT? IT WILL FUND THE REMOVAL OF 1 MILLION CRIMINAL ALIENS A YEAR. IT WILL DO A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO. IT WILL FUND MILITARY SPENDING INCREASES. WE’LL BE ABLE TO FUND WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS IDENTIFIED OR CALLED THE GOLDEN DOME, SOMETHING THAT RESEMBLES WHAT ISRAEL HAS FOR ITS OBVIOUSLY A SMALL COUNTRY. WE’LL BE ABLE TO PROTECT ALL OF OUR COUNTRY FROM MISSILE ATTACKS. IT INCREASES FUNDING FOR SHIPBUILDING, BASICALLY. ALLOWS THE ADMINISTRATION TO KEEP ITS PROMISE OF STOP FOOLING AROUND WITH THE MILITARY, STOP SOCIAL ENGINEERING THROUGH THE MILITARY, BUT INSTEAD FUND A LETHAL MILITARY THAT WILL DO WHAT AMERICAN MILITARY OUGHT TO DO, WHICH IS BE SO STRONG THAT IT ENSURES PEACE. YOU’RE ALSO AN ATTORNEY. I’M CURIOUS TO KNOW WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT. THERE’S A DISCUSSION THAT’S ONGOING RIGHT NOW ABOUT HABEAS CORPUS, WHICH, OF COURSE, IS THE RIGHT TO APPEAR BEFORE A JUDGE AS IT APPLIES TO IMMIGRATION. THERE ARE CERTAIN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO ARE CAUGHT WITHIN MILES OF THE BORDER OR HERE ONLY A SHORT TIME CAN BE DEPORTED VERY QUICKLY. BUT THE IDEA THAT’S EVEN BEING DISCUSSED BY SOME TOP ADMINISTRATION ADVISERS OF SUSPENDING HABEAS CORPUS, WHERE DO YOU STAND ON THAT? I DON’T THINK WE HAVE TO GO TO THAT. EXTREME. I THINK THERE’S A OPPORTUNITIES EXIST TO HAVE A VERY LIMITED WHAT PEOPLE CALL DUE PROCESS HEARING FOR ALL OF THE 20 OR 30 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS THAT ARE IN THE COUNTRY. AND THE WAY YOU DO IT IS THEY’RE VERY SIMPLE HEARINGS. ARE YOU THE PERSON WE’VE IDENTIFIED? SHOULD YOU BE IN THIS COUNTRY? AND IF THEY’RE NOT, THEN THEY CAN BE DEPORTED. SO WE CAN DO THOSE HEARINGS VERY QUICKLY. OBVIOUSLY, IT’S GOING TO TAKE SOME FUNDING. WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH PEOPLE DECENTLY, EVEN IF THEY BROKE THE LAW COMING INTO THE COUNTRY, WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THEM DECENTLY, MAKE SURE OF THEIR STATUS AND THEN REMOVE THEM. AND IT’S, YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS SIMPLE, RIGHT? BUT THIS IS A FOUNDATIONAL ELEMENT OF THIS COUNTRY, ISN’T IT? RIGHT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, ONE OF THE GRIEVANCES AGAINST THE KING WAS FOR TRANSPORTING US BEYOND SEAS FOR FOR PRETEND OFFENSES. AND, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, EVERY EVERY INDIVIDUAL CASE, BUT THAT THAT KIND OF GETS AT THE IDEA OF WHY THIS IS PART OF WHAT AMERICA DOES. IT’S WHO WE WANT TO BE AS A COUNTRY. YOU KNOW, WE CAN MAKE TECHNICAL ARGUMENTS THAT THEY AREN’T AMERICAN CITIZENS, THAT THEY’RE HERE IN THEIR VERY STATUS IS AGAINST THE LAW, AND THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO REMOVE THEM IN A PLENARY MANNER. JUST A PREEMPTIVE MANNER. I THINK A LOT OF US SAY, WELL, LET’S TAKE THE EXTRA TIME. WE’RE A COUNTRY THAT CAN MAKE SURE THAT OUR IDEALS ARE BEING MET AND DO IT IN A WAY THAT IS EFFICIENT AND ACHIEVES WHAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT GOAL, WHICH IS MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A COUNTRY WITH BORDERS THAT PEOPLE DON’T THINK THAT THEY CAN IGNORE. THOSE BORDERS COME HERE AND LIVE AND NOT BE SUBJECT TO DEPORTATION. EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD HAS A RIGHT TO CONTROL WHO’S IN ITS WITHIN ITS BORDERS. ONE PARALLEL TOPIC HERE I’D LIKE TO DISCUSS WITH YOU AS WELL IS THE WEAPONIZATION OF GOVERNMENT. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT REPUBLICANS COMPLAIN BITTERLY ABOUT UNDER BIDEN, UNDER OBAMA AS WELL. YOU KNOW, WE SEE THIS WHITE HOUSE, YOU KNOW, ENGAGING RIGHT NOW IN A REAL FIGHT WITH HARVARD DOWN IN BOSTON. AND HOWEVER YOU FEEL ABOUT HARVARD, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON USING GOVERNMENT POWER TO TRY. AND SO SO REPUBLICANS LOOK AT WHAT HAS DEVELOPED INTO AN UNFORTUNATELY LONG HISTORY OF MISUSE OF OF THE CRIMINAL COURTS BY THE POLITICAL OPPOSITION, WHETHER IT’S, YOU KNOW, SENATOR STEVENS BEING INDICTED IN ALASKA TO REMOVE THE FILIBUSTER, VOTE AGAINST OBAMACARE AND LATER BEING AFTER HE WAS DEAD, LATER BEING EXONERATED, OR BOB MCDONNELL, THE GOVERNOR OF VIRGINIA, BEING INDICTED ON WHAT THE SUPREME COURT AND TRIED AND CONVICTED ON WHAT THE SUPREME COURT LATER SAID WASN’T EVEN A CRIME. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO STOP, BUT WE SEE WHAT HAPPENED WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP. I THINK, NONETHELESS, THAT THERE’S A NEED STILL AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEMONSTRATE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHO DON’T WANT THIS AND TO DEMONSTRATE TO OUR POLITICAL OPPONENTS THAT THAT’S NOT THE WAY WE SHOULD CONDUCT OUR POLITICS. WE SHOULDN’T SAY, OKAY, NOW WE’RE IN POWER, WE’RE GOING TO LOOK AT POTENTIALLY QUESTIONABLE ACTIVITY, BUT NOT CLEARLY CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, AND TRY TO REFRAME IT AS CRIMINAL AND GO AT YOU THE WAY YOU WENT AFTER US. I THINK WE HAVE TO PUT IN PLACE, CERTAINLY ANY ANY INVESTIGATIONS THAT IDENTIFY THE MISUSE OF THE SYSTEM AND PUNISH IT, BUT WE SHOULDN’T ENGAGE IN WHAT THEY ENGAGED IN WITH US. AND PART OF THIS DISCUSSION WILL CONTINUE IN THE FIRST IN THE NATION PRIMARY. OF COURSE, NEVER TOO EARLY TO START TALKING ABOUT THAT. I KNOW WE SAY IT A LOT HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, BUT WHAT’S GOING ON RIGHT NOW ON THE RNC SIDE IN ENSURING THAT THE CALENDAR LOOKS THE WAY THAT THE GRANITE STATE WANTS IT TO LOOK? WELL, PERSONALLY, WHAT I’M DOING IS I’VE CONCENTRATED AS AN RNC MEMBER ON ELECTION INTEGRITY, AND THERE’S TWO THINGS I’M TRYING TO DO. ONE IS TO BRING THE NEW HAMPSHIRE EXPERIENCE TO THE RNC AS A WHOLE. WE HAVE A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW TO CONDUCT ELECTIONS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. WE HAVE PAPER BALLOTS. WE HAVE ONE DAY ELECTIONS. WE HAVE ALL BALLOTS BEING COUNTED AS SOON AS THE POLLS CLOSE AND THE COUNT CONTINUING TO TO COMPLETION, WE CAN LEARN SOMETHING FROM OTHER JURISDICTIONS. WE CAN LEARN HOW BETTER TO VERIFY OUR ABSENTEE BALLOTS. WE CAN LEARN BETTER HOW TO DEFINE WHO IS A RESIDENT OF OUR STATE AND ENTITLED TO VOTE. SO THERE’S OPPORTUNITIES TO LEARN. BUT THERE’S THERE’S A REAL LESSON THAT I’M TRYING TO TALK ABOUT. AND THE REASON I AM, BECAUSE IT’S GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY, BUT ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THIS IS THE THE STATE WHERE WE SHOULD HAVE THE FIRST IN THE NATION PRIMARY. WE HAVE SOME OF THE BEST ELECTION LAWS. WE KNOW WHO COME HERE TO VOTE, AND WE KNOW THAT THE VOTE THAT IS ANNOUNCED AFTER A PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY IS EXACTLY AN ACCURATE VOTE. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK I THINK IT LOOKS GOOD FOR US, AT LEAST IN THE REPUBLICAN SIDE. CONTINUING WITH THE FIRST IN THE NATION PRIMARY, I WANT TO ACCESS BEFORE WE WRAP UP SOME OF YOUR STATEHOUSE EXPERIENCE HERE, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? YOU KNOW, YOU HAD, IN SOME WAYS A BLESSING AND A CURSE OF ONE OF THE BIGGEST MAJORITIES WE’VE SEEN IN A LONG TIME. DOES THAT MAKE IT HARDER? SOMETIMES WHEN THE DEBATE IS INTERNAL, AS WE’RE SEEING WITH THE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL, TO GET SOMETHING ACROSS THE FINISH LINE WHEN YOU’RE FIGHTING IN-HOUSE RATHER THAN BACK AND FORTH WITH THE OTHER. SURE. I REMEMBER AFTER I WAS SPEAKER, SOMEBODY ASKED ME, OH, DID YOU WORK ACROSS THE AISLE? AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF AISLES THERE. AND SO WHEN YOU HAVE A MAJORITY THAT BIG, CERTAINLY THERE’S A WIDE SPECTRUM OF PEOPLE. YOU HAVE TO BE PATIENT. YOU HAVE TO TO LISTEN TO FOLKS AND SAY, WHAT ARE YOUR ISSUES AND DRAW THEM IN, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, CONGRESSMAN MACY HAS VOTED AGAINST THE RECONCILIATION BILL. NOW WE HAVE TO I WOULD HOPE THE ADMINISTRATION, THE HOUSE LEADERSHIP, AND I KNOW SPEAKER JOHNSON IS JUST A VERY EFFECTIVE SPEAKER, WILL GO TO HIM AND SAY, WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO BRING YOU ON BOARD AND LISTEN TO THE IMPORTANT ISSUES THAT HE HAS? ALL RIGHT. AND THEY’RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THAT IN CONCORD AS WELL. WITH THE STATE BUDGET. COMMITTEEMAN O’BRIEN, THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US. WE APPRECIATE THE TIME. THANK YOU, ADAM. ALL RIGHT. AND WE’LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH MANC